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Saturday, March 10, 2018

MOTORHOME MODIFICATIONS - *P* is Progressive Industries EMS Electrical Management System Hardwire

I am going to start off the new year with posting some of our motorhome modifications, a few at a time. I will post repairs, modifications, or neato things we have found for RVing.  I have lots of pics in my files so I will do them in alphabetical order.

Underneath that stuff, I will post my regular daily stuff..... kinda sorta fun, eh?

So here it goes, we are up to the letter P now!


MOTORHOME MODIFICATIONS 
STARTING WITH THE LETTER P


Progressive Industries EMS:
This installation was done in 2012.  
It is one of the best things we did to our motorhome's electrical system. 
This is the installation of our Progressive Industries EMS LCHW50 which is an Electrical Management System.  It protects our sensitive electronics inside of our motorhome from spikes, surges, low voltage brown-outs or even mis-wired posts in campgrounds.  (which happens more often than you think!)
In the past, we usually didn't camp much in places with hookups, instead we rely on our solar or at last resort, on our generator.  We did have some smaller Surge Guard portable surge protector units that just plug onto the cord. These work okay for spikes, but have no protection for low power brown-outs which can be just as bad.  The little units do not reset automatically either.  
So we decided to go with a hard-wired unit that is installed inside of a locked compartment.   They are more expensive, but worth it. 
You can buy an external 50 amp surge protector EMS that just plugs onto your cord out at the post, but we hear of those walking away... even with the little clip locks. It is sad that some people in campgrounds steal things.  So we decided to get the one that gets hard wired inside the compartment, as safe as we can get it. 

We ordered the EMS unit from Camping World where they were having a sale for $250.00. That was the best price around when we placed our order.  This is a hard-wired unit that needs to be installed carefully, with attention to each little step.  One mishap and we can ruin our electrical system.


We read the directions from front to back, and Steve set up his work area.  I was his "gopher" for fetching tools.  Love his stool, eh?  He already attached another section of 4 strand heavy wire to the unit in preparation to install.  (I think it's number 6 wire)


First, we made sure the power was unplugged from the rig!  Then Steve removed the cover from our Automatic Transfer Switch.   He decided to install the EMS on the upside of the Transfer Switch to protect that, rather than downstream of the Transfer Switch (which would leave the switch vulnerable, but would protect the input from the generator)   We don't often run the generator, so didn't think it was as important to locate it there. 

Careful connections were made, with me double checking over his shoulder as he attached each wire.  Sometimes it helps to have two sets of eyes on a project as important as this.  Once the connections and ground was made in the Transfer Switch, then we wired up the connections and grounds in the EMS unit.  

Next he did the connections in the EMS unit, and then the actual digital readout device gets plugged into place.  We also had to determine if our air conditioners had a "delay" in restarting if they ever get turned off mid-cycle (they don't have that built-in feature) ...  so the EMS has the option of either:
  •  a 6 second delay (default setting)  
  •  or a 2 minute delay (by removing a jumper pin from the control board)  
to allow a delayed restart to protect the air conditioners if a shut down and restart ever happened.   Now we are all set. 


We doublechecked everything again and compared it against the diagrams in the instructions.  We stood back to admire our work.   Now it was time to plug it in!  We ran a "test" ... sure enough, it worked!   It read each leg of the 50amp connection and tested for any errors.   All is fine and it says that our garage power is clean.  (we already knew that).

We mounted it up into place on the side wall of our electrical bay.    Don't it look "purty"????   (the black box on the left is what we are gabbing about)   It had to go to the left of the Transfer Switch, as the wall on the right had incoming and outgoing wires for other items.


We put all of our other electrical gear back into the compartment.  We carry our main 50 amp cord --- a.k.a. The Snake.   Then a 25ft 50 amp extension, and a 30ft 30 amp extension, and even a plain old orange 10 gauge longer cord to use in a pinch.  Also a few dog bones and some adapters for various campground hookups.

There... all back together, good as new.       Or better than new!!!

Since that picture was taken 6 years ago,
we replaced our inverter, so here is a more current pic: 

We are comforted by the fact that we have done what we can to protect our electronics. Having everything in your rig blasted out by incorrect wiring is NOT fun, and has happened to two people we know of.  Mis-wired power posts and outlets can destroy everything in your rig.  

In doing park maintenance, Steve can't tell you how often people back into power posts, look around fast, and tip it back up again and hope nobody notices.  It can knock out connections inside, or make wires touch at broken connectors inside, not seen by the unsuspecting next camper arriving and plugging in on the site. 

When you start adding up the cost of replacing tvs, laptops, cell phones, control boards in all the appliances, light fixtures, etc. It is not something we want to ever have happen to us. 

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We are PHONE-LESS this weekend!   I jokingly told my friends on Facebook to contact us via Smoke Signals! 

Two weeks ago, my faithful 2 year old Motorola Maxx 2 droid phone went whonkey after doing a new update.  Thankfully, it was under a protection plan, so Verizon replaced it free of charge.  They shipped the replacement phone to me 12 days ago, and all was good to go.  It did keep asking for an update, but I kept hitting the delay button.  It was explained to me that the new update was over stressing the processor in the 2 year old technology, so just don't update it until new patches from Motorola were in place.  For 9 days I kept hitting "delay 24 hours".  On the 10th day, it went ahead on it's own and updated! ACK!   Well, it went nuts again, totally dead when it was fully charged and would not reset or start up at all.  I tried all the suggested online fixes... nada. 

We drove into Appleton and went to Verizon.  After he fiddled with it for a while, he said it's DEAD.  Sooooo they are going to send a 3rd phone!   (free)  This time he said when the update screen comes up, just swipe and close it out and do not hit delay.  Leave it in the old version and it should be fine.  We are due for upgrade at the end of the month, so we will see if the 3rd phone works or keeps messing up.  They will do a trade-in in my favor at the end of the month on a 2 week old phone. LOL 

In the meantime, we have laptops and tablets and home internet.  Steve does not have a phone. After carrying around 2 phones at all times, and in the old days he had pagers for his job (and even now part time driving handicapped folks they have a phone while in the bus)  he doesn't want a phone of his own.  Sooooo we will be quiet and no phone ringing this weekend, at least until later Monday when the new one comes? 


Today was sunny and up about 38 degrees. We took the dogs for a nice long walk around the neighborhood.  It sure felt good, as the snow is melting and the sidewalks are clear for the most part.  Spring is in the air, and some of the willow trees have some buds on the branches.  Of course we can still get snow as late as April, but for now, we will enjoy some sunshine. 


Tuesday, January 26, 2016

REDUX- Motorhome Modifications - PROGRESSIVE INDUSTRIES EMS SURGE PROTECTOR


Since it's the boring winter months, and we are not travelling yet, I thought I would do some repeats of my most-read blog posts on RV repairs.  This one had almost 1,000 views when I first posted it. We installed our Progressive Industries EMS Surge Protector in June of 2012 and it works just great! 






Motorhome Modifications - PROGRESSIVE INDUSTRIES EMS SURGE PROTECTOR

Ahhhh a whole Saturday in front of us with NO plans other than working on our own projects.  Wheeeeee

First up on our list of items was installing our Progressive Industries EMS LCHW50 which is an Electrical Management System.  It protects our sensitive electronics inside of our motorhome from spikes, surges, low voltages or even mis-wired posts in campgrounds.  (which happens more often than you think!)

In the past, we usually didn't camp much in places with hookups, instead we rely on our solar or at last resort, on our generator.  We did have some smaller Surge Guard portable surge protector units that just plug onto the cord. These work okay for spikes, but have no protection for low power, (brown outs) which can be just as bad.  The little units do not reset either.  So we decided to go with a hard-wired inside unit.   They are more expensive, but worth it. 
You can buy a 50 amp surge protector EMS that just plugs onto your cord at the post, but we hear of those walking away.... even with the little clip locks. Sad that people in campgrounds steal things.  So we decided to get the one that gets hard wired inside the compartment, as safe as we can get it.

We ordered the EMS unit from Camping World where they were having a sale for $250.00 .. that was the best price around when we placed our order.  This is a hard-wired unit that needs to installed carefully, with attention to each little step.  One mishap and we can ruin our electrical system.

We read the directions from front to back, and Steve set up his work area.  I was his "gopher" for fetching tools, as his knee is giving him grief again.  Love his stool, eh?  He already attached another section of 4 strand heavy wire to the unit in preparation to install.  (I think it's number 6 wire)




First, we made sure the power was unplugged from the rig! ...   then Steve removed the cover from our Automatic Transfer Switch.   He decided to install the EMS on the upside of the Transfer Switch to protect that, rather than downstream of the Transfer Switch (which would leave the switch vulnerable, but would protect the input from the generator)   We don't often run the generator, so didn't think it was as important to locate it there. 


Careful connections were made, with me double checking over his shoulder as he attached each wire.  Sometimes it helps to have two sets of eyes on a project as important as this.  Once the connections and ground was made in the Transfer Switch, then we wired up the connections and grounds in the EMS unit.  

Once the connections were made in the EMS, the actual digital readout device gets plugged into place.    We also had to determine if our air conditioners had a "delay" in restarting if they ever get turned off mid-cycle (they don't have that built-in feature) ...  so the EMS has the option of either a 6 second delay (default setting)   or a 2 minute delay (by removing a jumper pin from the control board)   to allow a delayed restart to protect the air conditioners if a shut down and restart ever happened.   Now we are all set. 



We doublechecked everything again and compared it against the diagrams in the instructions.  We stood back to admire our work.   Now it was time to plug it in!  We ran a "test" ... sure enough, it worked!   It read each leg of the 50amp connection and tested for any errors.   All is fine and our garage power is clean.  (we already knew that)


We mounted it up into place on the side wall of our electrical bay.    Don't it look "purty"????   (the black box on the left is what we are gabbing about)   It had to go to the left of the Transfer Switch, as the wall on the right had incoming and outgoing wires for other items.




We put all of our other electrical gear back into the compartment.  We carry our main 50 amp cord --- a.k.a. The Snake.   Then a 25ft 50 amp extension, and a 30ft 30 amp extension, and even a plain old orange 10 gauge longer cord to use in a pinch.  Also a few dog bones (recognize that one, Dee and Jim?) and some adapters for various campground hookups.
There... all back together, good as new.       Or better than new!!!

We are comforted by the fact that we have done what we can to protect our electronics.  Having everything in your rig blasted out by incorrect wiring is NOT fun, and has happened to two people we know of.  Mis-wired power posts and outlets can destroy everything in your rig.  When you start adding up the cost of replacing tvs, laptops, cell phones, control boards in all the appliances, light fixtures, etc. It is not something we want to ever have happen to us. 

 



Saturday, May 12, 2012

Motorohome Modifications - PROGRESSIVE INDUSTRIES EMS

It's a quiet Saturday around here... no Open Houses for this weekend.  Tomorrow I am very fortunate to be invited to our son and daughter-in-law's home for a cookout for Mother's Day!   I am actually really a "step mom" to Dan, though we never use that term with any of our kids.  I am so grateful that our son and dear daughterinlaw include me right along with the other Grandmothers for this special day.  Awwwwwww   I also get to cuddle Mason and play with Allegra!

I am bringing along a pot of Calico Beans....   got them simmering up a day early in the crock pot, and will put in the fridge overnight.  They always taste better the next day.
(before you have to ask, here is the recipe)

CALICO BEANS

**warning** I am a dumper kind of cook, not a precise recipe person!!!

First, brown up some ground beef, bout half a pound, and chopped onion, and drain. Then either fry up about 4 strips of bacon, and cut or break into small pieces.  Or use those great bags or small jars of Hormel real bacon bits already made up! 

Now dump that and all this into a crock pot:

1 can kidney beans
1 can baked beans
1 can butter beans
a big squirt of ketchup
1/2 cup brown sugar
dollop of molasses
squirt of steak sauce
double squirt of BBQ sauce (we like Sweet Baby Rays)

season to taste
you can heat it up quick on the stove or
let it go a few hours on the slow cooker
yummmmmmmmm
some folks add grape jelly...
some folks add mustard...
some folks add vinegar...




Next week I am going out to a planned luncheon with both daughters and their kids too.  So it's more of a Mother's Week instead of a Mother's Day.  I realize that my daughters are now Mothers of their own.   They can do things with their own families on Sunday and their spouses's moms too.  I am not one of those mothers who demand a day of honor for me on the actual day.  Anytime around the day is fine! LOL

On to motorhome things!

We have kicked around the idea of getting a hard wired in Surge Protector for our motorhome.  We have two portable Surge Guard surge protectors circuit analyzers, one for 50 amp power pedestals and one for 30 amp power pedestals.  They work fine (we will be selling them if anyone wants to buy them from us-- contact me at pfundt@gmail.com for info before I put them on Ebay)   Only used a few times each, stored back in the package each time to keep them clean. New they were about $100 each.  Will sell for $50 each including shipipng.


30 amp portable Surge Guard                            50 amp portable Surge Guard



We figured before living in our rig full time, we should invest in the more expensive hardwired-in version. We have heard of folks getting power surges or spikes from their generators or from mis-wired pedestals in parks.  We don't often camp with hookups, but for the times that we do, it's nice to have the protection.   If we run the generator, we would be protected with a wired-in version.  Something the portable one out on the post can't do for us.

We did a little research, asked a few groups of RVers and finally decided on ordering the Progressive Industries EMS-LCHW50.   Of all the places we looked, the best price was at Camping World where they had a sale going on.  $255 (saved $110)   plus I looked up a coupon code for $5 off and only $6 shipping.  Not too bad.  This was ordered online at:
(both the 30 amp and 50 amp units were on sale)





When that gets here, I will take some pics of where Steve is going to wire it in our electrical service bay.

We are still going through a few things around the house to dispose of.  Imagine keeping your financial records since 1984?  Yup, I had some of those.  Also, I used to be a Real Estate Broker, so I had customer file transactions dating back to 1990!   (supposed to keep those for 10 years)    We stood in the garage with boxes of files with the shredder buzzing along until all were disposed of.  Steve took the huge compacted pile in a big lawn/leaf bag down to the woods and burned it!   Here is the start... it flamed up and then died out fast.  Not much for a paper fire.  Sigh.


See all of the wild trilliums in bloom??

Speaking of blooms, remember the doggie planter that I repainted in a few blogs back?  Well, I found some pretty African Violets to put in him!   Got him all planted up last night.  There... sooo pretty!  His head and tail are on springs so they "wobble" when you pet his head.  The grandkids get a kick outta him.  This adorable doggie planter I will take along in the motorhome.  He can ride along on the dash between our two consoles, and be brought outside on nice days too.  


It's almost noon, and Mr. Steveio is out there doing some stuff to the motorhome, and loading up some gear for next weekend.  I better get out there and see what mischief he is up to.  I think he is putting on the two Maxxair vent covers I painted last week.

Next weekend I have a weaving workshop to go to in Beloit area, so have a few things to load up.  Time to hit the road and have a nice getaway for a few days in the rig.  He can play around in the parking lot at the studio with minor repairs and upgrades while I am in my classes.   

About 6 years ago we were at the same workshop, and we had our Coachmen gas motorhome.  Steve went for a ride on our scooter to get a new filter for our generator, and drove down to Rockford, Illinois for the parts.  While there he happened to spot a pretty shiny blue Safari Serengeti diesel pusher rig and fell in LOVE with it.   Wonder what he will find this time?


Me and my Mom

THEN 


NOW



HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY !!!

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